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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:55 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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Might be a bit hyperbolic. It was certainly a poor showing for Cathy Newman. Scott Adams (Dilbert creator) had an amusing post-mortem on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:23 am 
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So, you're saying I'm a lobster.

Also, you context-less links are still terrible years later, Elmo. <3

It's not a bad interview if you like JBP. Peterson handles himself really well despite her bullshit and she isn't sophisticated enough to keep up. It's bad if you wanted to actually try to argue against JBP. Most arguments against him are people misunderstanding what what he's saying or not listening to what he's saying.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:28 am 
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It's a bad interview if you want to perform an interview.
A bad interviewer like this is worse than interviewing someone who doesn't respond.

And whatever, if people want to click links they will, if not shrug

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:45 pm 
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Elmarnieh wrote:
It's a bad interview if you want to perform an interview.
A bad interviewer like this is worse than interviewing someone who doesn't respond.

And whatever, if people want to click links they will, if not shrug


People want to click links more if they know what's in it. Trust me. Anyway, I'm just giving you a hard time, because I know you won't change. ;)

https://youtu.be/WHZjcfgk4CI

Here's another interview with JBP. If you've never heard of the Jocko podcast... he's a cool dude. He's had some interesting guests. Get after it.

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Honestly, I happen to like Jordan Peterson. But I'm not going to click that without knowing the context or at least some assurance it won't waste more than 30 seconds of my life if I don't like it.

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Screeling wrote:
Honestly, I happen to like Jordan Peterson. But I'm not going to click that without knowing the context or at least some assurance it won't waste more than 30 seconds of my life if I don't like it.

If you enjoy Peterson, and you enjoy watching an individual with carefully chosen words and a measured tone dissect an emotion driven ideological attack against his person with fantastic skill, you'll be impressed with his work in this video.

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From what I've seen, Peterson is kind of a smug ******* who gets a lot of mileage out of his "motte and bailey" style of debate - i.e., when his audience is receptive, he asserts or at least implies relatively extreme conclusions that would be vulnerable if challenged but retreats to more moderate, easily defensible positions when pressed by a hostile audience. That said, the interviewer in this video really was so appalling that it makes Peterson look fantastic by comparison. Read a good write-up of it in The Atlantic a couple weeks ago:

My first introduction to Jordan B. Peterson, a University of Toronto clinical psychologist, came by way of an interview that began trending on social media last week. Peterson was pressed by the British journalist Cathy Newman to explain several of his controversial views. But what struck me, far more than any position he took, was the method his interviewer employed. It was the most prominent, striking example I’ve seen yet of an unfortunate trend in modern communication. First, a person says something. Then, another person restates what they purportedly said so as to make it seem as if their view is as offensive, hostile, or absurd.

Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, and various Fox News hosts all feature and reward this rhetorical technique. And the Peterson interview has so many moments of this kind that each successive example calls attention to itself until the attentive viewer can’t help but wonder what drives the interviewer to keep inflating the nature of Peterson’s claims, instead of addressing what he actually said.

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To conclude, this is neither an endorsement nor a condemnation of Peterson’s views. It is an argument that the effects of the approach used in this interview are pernicious....Lots of culture-war fights are unavoidable––that is, they are rooted in earnest, strongly felt disagreements over the best values or way forward or method of prioritizing goods. The best we can do is have those fights, with rules against eye-gouging. But there is a way to reduce needless division over the countless disagreements that are inevitable in a pluralistic democracy: get better at accurately characterizing the views of folks with differing opinions, rather than egging them on to offer more extreme statements in interviews; or even worse, distorting their words so that existing divisions seem more intractable or impossible to tolerate than they are. That sort of exaggeration or hyperbolic misrepresentation is epidemic—and addressing it for everyone’s sake is long overdue.


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I guess he can be considered smug if facts can be considered smug. Are facts smug?

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shuyung wrote:
I guess he can be considered smug if facts can be considered smug. Are facts smug?

That’s a good impression of his style, actually. ;)


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That doesn't answer the question.

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The truth is smug. ;)

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