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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:36 pm 
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U.S. troops marched through Red Square for the first time in a Victory Day parade on Sunday as Russia celebrated the 65th anniversary of the end of World War II. It was a scene cut from Russia’s Cold War nightmares: 71 Americans in dark blue dress uniforms carried the U.S. flag over the cobblestones, past the mausoleum of Vladimir Lenin and the towers of the Kremlin wall to salute Russian leaders.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:06 pm 
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Wow, that probably would not have happened 20 years ago. Definitely not back in the Reagan admin.


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Actually, you might be surprised. I actually spent some time on a C-130 on the tarmac of a Russian air base sometime around 1982. I remember it well, because we had to carry a safe full of cash (American dollars mind you) to pay for the fuel.. our credit was no good. :P


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Midgen wrote:
our credit was no good. :P


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Rodahn wrote:
Wow, that probably would not have happened 20 years ago. Definitely not back in the Reagan admin.

Yeah. Despite the reforms that were beginning to form, there were still a lot of hardliners in power that would have seized upon an offer by the Kremlin to allow US troops to march in the parade as an opportunity to reverse the trends and change the power distribution. However, if by some chance, the offer was made in good faith, I have no doubt that Regan would have accepted, for all the reasons the hard liners would have rejected it.


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Ladas wrote:
Yeah. Despite the reforms that were beginning to form, there were still a lot of hardliners in power that would have seized upon an offer by the Kremlin to allow US troops to march in the parade as an opportunity to reverse the trends and change the power distribution. However, if by some chance, the offer was made in good faith, I have no doubt that Regan would have accepted, for all the reasons the hard liners would have rejected it.


I generally agree, but I think it depends on when in Reagan's presidency the offer was made. He became a lot less of a hardliner himself in his second term. 1986 Reagan - definitely would have accepted; 1982 Reagan - still probably a yes, but I'm not as sure.


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I was actually referring to the hardliners in the Soviet Union as balking at the situation. Those here I believe would have been as much in favor of the idea as moderates, though for different reasons.


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Yeah, probably, though I do wonder if the US hardliners (1982 Reagan included) would have seen it as a step toward normalizing relations and thus acknowledging the legitimacy of the USSR.


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It's just strange to see, I'm not sure how I feel about it beyond that.

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RangerDave wrote:
Yeah, probably, though I do wonder if the US hardliners (1982 Reagan included) would have seen it as a step toward normalizing relations and thus acknowledging the legitimacy of the USSR.


We had perfectly normal relations with the USSR. Embassy and everything. We'd even done stuff like the joint Apollo-Soyuz linkup by then.

Relations were just unfriendly and distrustful; they were otherwise perfectly normal.

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